Welcome to another episode of The Imperfectly Perfect podcast where each week I'm joined by some of the world's most renowned faces in the entertainment industry on the sports field , corporate leaders and inspirational thought leaders around the world . Each sharing their own truths and their personal journeys . Today , I'm joined by my good friend Mr Robert Mack , who you might remember from an earlier podcast around two years ago .
That is yes , we can be talking like this now . But this journey for me has been a long bloody time of going inwards and I know it as for you and that's this profession you do now is years and years . So I don't want anyone ever to think like you can go from there to there and suddenly be like , oh , this is fantastic because then that falls or can do into toxic positivity and trying to perceive this .
Um So , yeah , so in all that time , I mostly just spend a whole lot of time doing some research on what unhappiness is , what happiness is , what leads to it , what doesn't . And uh in that process too , I guess I've been so excited about the whole journey and sharing the experience and helping people that I kind of made a career out of it . Um But none of them was planned , none of it was planned , you know , um it happened despite um you know , infinite mistakes .
And so while I didn't have a whole lot of money , I mean , everything else that truly matter I had and I was living a really phenomenal experience on this book tour . My mom came with me and um , despite just having enough to get through the book tour , it was one of the highlights of my life . And so I think part of the lesson there is just that you might think you're living in a valley .
And I'm glad you did like I like conversations with , you could go on like three or four hours mate . But I know one thing that you said there that I just want to draw upon because it's something that I've noticed along my journey that I'm going to start asking this question to a lot of people you said there from your profession , what people see on an external , you're up there presenting your talking regardless of what you're talking about that for you personally was one of your hardest times financially . Looking back on that time .
