Leadership . Like I like the best leadership that happens is really vulnerable and real and raw . Um And uh this is the first time I'm actually sitting across from you too , but I've had the pleasure of being on your Instagram , both of yours and I , what I love about you guys before I even got to sit across from you is that you both are very vulnerable , not naked but you are naked .
And I think that that really helped me , like , come into my own and feel like I'm , I , I am worthy to be here just as much as anybody else . People must be reaching out to you all the time and , and commenting on how your vulnerability but also your strength go if you , even if you don't know , I mean , these , these are just like , even if you don't know . Yeah .
I love it and raw . I love your authenticity so much , both of you . Um I think uh ay , your recent one that like really struck me was when you went somewhere for like a spa and like you're having anxiety about like wanting to do stuff .
Yeah . People were obsessed it's about trusting yourself . And I think both of you did that being comfortable with being uncomfortable .
No , I , I think it's just like , I think it's really cool to see , you know , you're not technically labeled as a coach , but you accomplished so much that a lot of people want to and you're giving so much , like I said , like to someone the other day dropping gold , like dropping on gold nuggets of like wisdom to people that are like , that might be like fans of dry bar or like , you know , all the other million things that you're doing . Um But like , you're being so vulnerable and saying , like , listen , like I didn't know what I was doing and I , but I just did it well and I think that that goes back to like the vulnerability stuff that we're talking about is like , you know , I think historically , business owners and founders and CEO S like , at least the way I viewed them most of my life was like , they're up on this pedestal , they're much smarter than me , you know , and I felt that tension , you know , as , even as we were growing Drive Bar and we put our board together and it was like , you know , there are private equity partners , like , were these really smart guys , is he went to like Harvard and Stanford . And I remember like being like , oh God , like , how am I gonna like , how am I gonna be in a room with these guys ?
