And that was one thing with me when I , when I retired , you know , in 2013 , I was able to intern and work , work with Kobe Bryant and Rob Pelinka when it was , when they were at landmark sports in El Segundo and how I got that was through the athletic department . I was like , well , I'm unsure if I wanna coach football , but are there any other opportunities that may come up that are , you know , kind of centered around sports ? And that's how I was able to get that internship .
So I I there is no definite timeline man . I could definitely see myself doing this for a long time and do great things and you know , be amongst the best and compete , bring that same mindset for football into this field of work . Most definitely , I feel like that helped a lot of people though for sure .
Oh yeah , get outside , you gotta step outside of your comfort zone and you gotta really , you guys have all these resources at UCL A and all these other universities , make sure that you're able to utilize that , be in front of these donors and be in front of the , you know , the alumni , make the , you know , reach out to the , the compliance office and the athletic office and make sure , you know , when , whether there are gatherings and things like that step outside of that man , because this football window , it's only certain it's gonna close eventually , man . And that was one thing with me when I , when I retired , you know , in 2013 , I was able to intern and work , work with Kobe Bryant and Rob Pelinka when it was , when they were at landmark sports in El Segundo and how I got that was through the athletic department . I was like , well , I'm unsure if I wanna coach football , but are there any other opportunities that may come up that are , you know , kind of centered around sports ?
So , you know , like I said , for you and anyone else , man , do not be afraid to step outside of the circle , man . And you know , whether it's hanging out with other students outside of football , whether they are athletes or not man , meet as many people as you can because , you know , you never know who you could cross paths with that can have an impact on you . No .
We gotta always make sure we are always , you know , trading correctly around here . Yeah , like one of my uh mentors , my football coach , he always say he said football , football players hang with football players , athletes hang with athletes . He was like , he was like thugs , he's like gangster , like they hang with thugs and Gangsters .
