Laurel Canyon Kitchen' Episode 4: Robert Mack

And I feel that we are far more powerful than we believe because I see a lot of people have like protective mechanisms because they think that they aren't mentally strong enough when we really are totally like , that's such a great point too . And I wish that as Children we were taught , like , better coping skills and , right , because we're not , we're really not , we're not taught how to emotionally regulate or be cognitively agile or how to pivot or reframe . Right .

Laurel Canyon Kitchen' Episode 4: Robert Mack

And um so can I ask you a question about that ? So what would you say obviously that tough love in that moment you had there , what would you say have been the most helpful tips , tricks or tools for you becoming increasingly happy ? I would say gratitude is like the number one thing like being thankful I actually list in my head , I started out where I had to physically write it down , you know , like the happiest journal .

Laurel Canyon Kitchen' Episode 4: Robert Mack

And I was a little like 18 year old who was trying to find something in to heal the emptiness inside . And what helped me , like , get out of it was getting real tough love because I had been in therapy for years with depression and anxiety and I have a DH D I have like a lot of things and I had bullshitted so many therapists pretending to be OK . I would be honest always , but I would hide a lot .

Laurel Canyon Kitchen' Episode 4: Robert Mack

But the thought of being rejected by people terrified me to the point where , like , I wouldn't even go on auditions because I just thought I can't handle it . And then when I started getting rejected , you know , in like the corporate world and in relationships , I was like , oh , this isn't that , that's the realization epiphany that we all have because if you , you know , sort of practice it enough , yes , you get better , but most importantly , you stop caring so much . It doesn't hurt as much .

Laurel Canyon Kitchen' Episode 4: Robert Mack

I mean , really unhappy . I was stressed out anxious insecure and I always thought I would grow out of it and , uh , that didn't quite happen . It just got worse .