Jocko on Running for President | Jocko Willink & Dr. Andrew Huberman

How can we take care of our customer ? That's what people are focused on . And when you jump on social media , you , you can get sucked into the political scene very easily .

Jocko on Running for President | Jocko Willink & Dr. Andrew Huberman

Um And so they ask for that reason among others and I've heard you give your answer , you can repeat it again here . But as a more broad theme that I think uh people are interested in , do you think it's an important criteria or it would be great to see people in positions of leadership who've had wartime experience ? Um And do you think that some of the shifts that we've seen in terms of um patterns of leadership over the last , let's just make it real broad so that this isn't related to any particular person or stretch of , of history but over the last , let's just say , 25 years , um , reflect the fact that we haven't seen a lot of that , at least at the top tiers of leadership .

Jocko on Running for President | Jocko Willink & Dr. Andrew Huberman

You know , I think that's the problem that we're having right now . And a lot of these things that you talked about , uh , specifically the thing you talk about social media is not very good for political balance . It's , it's , it's actually horrible for political balance and a lot of it has to do with just the way that those conversations are had , a lot of it has to do with ego as well because I don't ever want to admit that I'm wrong about anything .

Jocko on Running for President | Jocko Willink & Dr. Andrew Huberman

And that being said , also , we do have to pay attention because you , you , you know , we as citizens have to make sure that that America stays on the , on the correct path within the guardrails of what this country is based on . So we do have to pay attention . Um But I will be doing my part as a civilian until there's total mayhem and chaos in the streets .

Jocko on Running for President | Jocko Willink & Dr. Andrew Huberman

Um Certainly you've earned the right to make whatever decision is that you feel is right for you . And I want to say that um I agree , I feel like we are a country that still includes a ton of generators and a ton of projectors that are interested in projecting the good and growing the good . I do believe both those phenotypes are important .